tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post3203397919782660948..comments2023-03-26T00:04:23.628-07:00Comments on Zerohour's Nameless Blog: It's Their Community, Not The CommunityUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-45591381571355000622013-04-14T14:31:59.933-07:002013-04-14T14:31:59.933-07:00At least you are the only one that comes around to...At least you are the only one that comes around to try to refute anything. Stand up guy, although misguided.<br /><br />Waiting on the others. In the meantime, it's important that everyone understands that I don't delete comments from these people. I'm happy they take the time away from their streams and virtual streetcorners to at least defend their views.Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-59226399635436677012013-04-13T00:07:04.185-07:002013-04-13T00:07:04.185-07:00Funny enough you never actually came to mind when ...Funny enough you never actually came to mind when I was writing the post you mentioned. The fact that you are so far down on the list of people that that article could pertain to says a lot about how things look from my perspective.<br /><br />I don't pay close very attention (I just found this post on Phat's blogroll and didn't even know I was mentioned) but to see, if even just a tidbit here and a whiff there, the swirls of negativity that were once pointed in my direction (again, not from you) now pointed at each other and others just makes me a bit sad.<br /><br />That said, I'm somewhat of an eternal optimist so for me the future always looks bright.<br /><br />iiimjiiimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03057369867933781407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-28883096802705725262013-04-07T23:19:01.362-07:002013-04-07T23:19:01.362-07:00Fair point Eccentrica.Fair point Eccentrica.Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-59846989686664098132013-04-07T14:46:18.134-07:002013-04-07T14:46:18.134-07:00To cut through all your crap Contritus, what Zero ...To cut through all your crap Contritus, what Zero is asking us to do is call a spade a spade. I personally have never had a problem doing that or with others who do. Mind you I also don't have a problem with not protecting the stupid from their own stupidity either. As I see it, if you're dumb enough to be texting while crossing the road (as an example), you ought to be run over to eliminate any possibility of further polluting the gene pool.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16365294509648944630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-29404808033362507032013-04-05T20:48:58.135-07:002013-04-05T20:48:58.135-07:00Here in Italy - more than in other Countries - we ...Here in Italy - more than in other Countries - we are having a hard time and I confess that these easy ways to make money are very tempting, gold selling too (I evaluated montly gains around 300/400 euros); but it's better to plan a more solid foundation to exit from this hardship and above all we have to keep ourservelves just.GMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777046124164419375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-76297312260373135722013-04-05T11:32:57.949-07:002013-04-05T11:32:57.949-07:00That's a pretty good word there, dignity.That's a pretty good word there, dignity.Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-75905375344997294412013-04-05T11:19:26.465-07:002013-04-05T11:19:26.465-07:00Some typos, can't edit. Sorry.Some typos, can't edit. Sorry.GMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777046124164419375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-22258921619960374722013-04-05T10:23:56.923-07:002013-04-05T10:23:56.923-07:00I think it's all about honesty in the real wor...I think it's all about honesty in the real world, I'll try to explain my point of view.<br />When we buy a rare companion from a noob for few hundreds of gold and resell it for more than 30K we're acting in bad faith, but in game and withouth any real money loss for him.<br /><br />When they write an hundred of pages full of tips and strategies available for free elsewhere they are making an useful compendium of public domain informaton. If they are selling it for gold it's like the companion example: a smart and dishonest character cheats an unsophisticated one. It could be a role playing way to make dirty golds.<br /> If there's a real money gain it's a fraud of a dishonest person.<br /><br />In my opinion the real money is the discriminating factor.<br /><br />The donate issue is all about dignity: if you are begging for something that's not strictly necessary for your survival you have no self-respect.<br /><br />Bleggars begging for a free trip, hardware, web hosting and paytime are dishonest and/or wretched human beings.GMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13777046124164419375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-11208248108254072652013-04-04T23:46:45.050-07:002013-04-04T23:46:45.050-07:00Both are good examples. This is needed to make a ...Both are good examples. This is needed to make a community. Communities help one another, remember this.Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-52404009631260882392013-04-04T23:14:25.490-07:002013-04-04T23:14:25.490-07:00Oh and just to point out about bloggers doing stuf...Oh and just to point out about bloggers doing stuff for Charity<br /><br />A- Nev did a Fund raiser for cancer - http://ahaddict.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/introducing-real-me-message-plea.html<br /><br />and B- Elvine did 2 24 Hour Streams for a childrens charity https://twitter.com/Elvinelol/status/246580593129832448<br />http://www.elvinelol.com/forums/showthread.php?207Gimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597270371958375414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-19013745048795780202013-04-04T22:56:26.042-07:002013-04-04T22:56:26.042-07:00you're*you're*Handerahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13229848160867402525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-42875697003100361902013-04-04T21:57:59.514-07:002013-04-04T21:57:59.514-07:00I'm gonna add a penny here, only a small comme...I'm gonna add a penny here, only a small comment but one that I hope some of the comment authors read.<br /><br />You don't have to Dislike a person, or be against them, to dislike there tactics/methods/actions. <br /><br />To voice (pen/type) your opinions against something does not mean you are actively trying to enforce it upon people, but simply trying to state and share you views.Gimphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12597270371958375414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-37717830273435546412013-04-04T11:49:06.983-07:002013-04-04T11:49:06.983-07:00I wouldn't call me arrogant, as I'm not th...I wouldn't call me arrogant, as I'm not the only person seeing they are out for a buck, I'm merely the messenger. They have every right to put their hand out, it's a free internet. I'm not against the free market. The question really is: Is this what you would call a community? Also, Nev and Faid are both hobbyists.<br /><br />Obviously this fell on deaf ears here or it wasn't read entirely as to why it's objectionable. Without rehashing what I wrote above, they've distanced themselves from what was the actual community. The actual gold making community isn't about scoring some chump change off people for rehashed tactics and handholding, it's always been more about helping their fellow gamer without the offering plate. The word "community" is a misnomer anyhow when talking about this incarnation. I live in a community, when my neighbor comes over to borrow my weed whacker, I'm not putting my hand out, except when they return it without fuel.<br /><br />If you believe donations and selling guides are silly, why did you support them to begin with by watching? Why not change the channel? A very interesting mentality, I'd love to know more, and possibly dedicate a post to it. I'm resistant to ads myself (probably because I've spent a career in sales and can recognize BS faster than most), but I really doubt the flock are.<br /><br />Either way, thanks for the positive discourse.Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-29470171094783806132013-04-03T18:51:34.541-07:002013-04-03T18:51:34.541-07:00Look, I have learned alot from the various gold ma...Look, I have learned alot from the various gold maker sites.. Elvine, Nev, Jim, Faid, etc. I have never donated anything more than a thanks, and never bought a guide. I'm not sure who would, but it follows the same deal as making gold in game... "a fool and their money are soon parted". I fail to see why this is even remotely objectionable. They can do what they want. For you to think you are the only person that sees that they are out for a buck is beyond arrogant. More power to them. <br /><br />I agree that most "ideas" are recycled processes that have been around for ever. I don't care. I got into it selling Gems, fined tuned based on reading various blogs. Added glyphs, now, there is virtually no market i don't touch to some degree or another. All from reading these blogs and never feeling any pressure to buy or donate. I see the adds...it's my decision to not click it.<br /><br />But to say they are less a part of the "community" because they don't do it your way is a bit silly.<br /><br />I agree with your view in so much as asking for donations and selling guides is equally silly.FatherFajitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17907914989044057900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-685017541593584042013-04-03T11:11:30.230-07:002013-04-03T11:11:30.230-07:00He's not the only one though, so it's unfa...He's not the only one though, so it's unfair to single him out, hence the reason for a blanket topic. If I called one person out on this topic, I would be validating all the others. I found this out when I called him out the first time, as his competitors were the happiest. Today those people don't like me so much, and I don't really care.<br /><br />The point being, I don't want to preach to the choir, I'd hope that the congregation gets the message, too.Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-2440068196929931272013-04-03T11:03:11.851-07:002013-04-03T11:03:11.851-07:00I really like the avatar (Michael Douglas as D-Fen...I really like the avatar (Michael Douglas as D-Fens, Falling Down), as it represents a person tired of all the BS in the world around him. Ironic that the comment agrees with the BS. I'm not asking to be your new king, I'm asking you to open your eyes to see the world that ambivalence is creating.<br />Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-27294359952590510992013-04-03T10:57:38.565-07:002013-04-03T10:57:38.565-07:00Zero, I really agree with what your getting at.. J...Zero, I really agree with what your getting at.. Jim at power world gold is clearly trying to milk it for all its worth.<br /><br />He NEVER has new content its allways hey look I sold some 83-84 items oh hello kitty.. Fuck off jim no one cares... Fish Junkiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05261976721337428612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-64459491181442873422013-04-03T09:49:45.287-07:002013-04-03T09:49:45.287-07:00So what you're advocating is a narrow reaction...So what you're advocating is a narrow reactionary illiberal provincial neo-medieval secular morality test accompanied by an Inquisition and witch hunt to purge what you, with your perfect sense of what is right, deem as inappropriate (re: sinful) behavior in others and flying in the face of civilization and enlightened thought, to use law, custom, and social condemnation to artificially create a hell on Earth and complicate the destiny of whomever you deem unclean. No thanks.Contritushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10078908604378026728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-88813430243898481642013-04-02T15:56:12.339-07:002013-04-02T15:56:12.339-07:00Exactly what I'm talking about, and the commen...Exactly what I'm talking about, and the comments I've heard over the years when you read various forums and the topic turns to gold making.Zerohourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07585688741521855038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-18861036294387043762013-04-02T13:51:43.077-07:002013-04-02T13:51:43.077-07:00I've been hanging out and lurking in "The...I've been hanging out and lurking in "The Community" off and on for a couple years now. And you have just summed up quite a lot of the reasons why I haven't become more active. I was one of the ones that bought a paid gold guide way back when, and learned a lot from it. Only to later find the Consortium. Wish I had found them first. I'm sure that any newer paid guides are just ripoffs of what is already out there, just regurgitated in their own words, or at least some of the time their own words.... <br /><br />It seems that discussions about the gold making have gotten pretty scarce on many of the sites, specially a few that seem to be burning out on WoW but still want the real money revenue.<br /><br />I think I will go donate to a puppy somewhere now! (And take a few other blogs off my favorites list.)DiscordDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17741328633723001185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-1502234147148871492013-04-02T12:40:41.434-07:002013-04-02T12:40:41.434-07:00Yes. Well said.Yes. Well said.Moveable Presshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09142421045872583295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4568871715043627819.post-23790926860151131062013-04-02T08:48:36.277-07:002013-04-02T08:48:36.277-07:00It's posts like these that fuel my reason to l...It's posts like these that fuel my reason to like you. I love your writing voice!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14614400677572131227noreply@blogger.com